Olympics chief tells west not to hector China
By Roger Blitz in London and Richard McGregor in Beijing
Published: April 25 2008 09:41 | Last updated: April 26 2008 02:29
The west must stop hectoring China over human rights, the Olympics chief has warned, even as Beijing on Friday showed the first signs of bowing to international protests by saying it would hold talks with aides to the Dalai Lama, Tibet’s exiled spiritual leader.
“You don’t obtain anything in China with a loud voice,” said Jacques Rogge, president of the International Olympic Committee. This was the “big mistake of people in the west”.
“It took us 200 years to evolve from the French Revolution. China started in 1949,” he said, a time when the UK and other European nations were also colonial powers, “with all the abuse attached to colonial powers”.
“It was only 40 years ago that we gave liberty to the colonies. Let’s be a little bit more modest.”
Mr Rogge was speaking to the Financial Times ahead of Beijing’s announcement on Friday that it would resume talks with representatives of the Dalai Lama, whom the Chinese government has previously blamed for triggering last month’s violent protests in Tibet.
Pro-Tibet protests have since overshadowed the Olympic torch relay in Europe, the US, India and Australia, which has in turn provoked a backlash in China against the west and calls to boycott foreign goods.
Xinhua, China’s official news agency, quoted an unnamed official saying the government hoped the Dalai side would “take credible moves to stop activities aimed at splitting China, plotting and inciting violence and disrupting and sabotaging the Beijing Olympic Games”.
The announcement of the talks coincided with a visit to Beijing by a Brussels delegation led by José Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission, who met Wen Jiabao, the Chinese premier, on Friday.
Mr Barroso welcomed the news of the talks, as did the White House and other western governments.
Mr Rogge also told the FT the IOC always believed awarding the 2008 Games to Beijing would “open up China”, and that in time this would happen.
“The Games we believe, over time, will have a good influence on social evolution in China, and the Chinese admit it themselves,” he said.
Mr Rogge questioned whether media attention on Tibet would be as strong if the Games were not taking place in Beijing. “I wonder if Tibet would be front page today were it not that the Games are being organised in Beijing. It would probably be page 4 or 5,” he said.
Mr Rogge said China had given significant ground to the IOC by opening access to foreign media for the Olympics, which he expected to be extended beyond 2008 and believed would be a key factor in the social evolution of the country. China had also responded to IOC concerns about pollution in Beijing and child labour, he added.
“We have been able to achieve something. I am not quite sure that heads of government have achieved much more than we have done,” Mr Rogge said.
The Games would continue to be awarded to cities with the best technical bids, and were for the benefit of athletes rather than for international political evolution, but “if at the same time they can bring something for the region of the country, yes, fine”.
South Korea, he pointed out, was a military dictatorship when it was awarded the 1988 Games, and became a vibrant democracy soon after staging them. “The Games played a key role, again by the presence of media people,” he said.
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IOC’s Rogge asks for more time for China
By Roger Blitz in London
Published: April 26 2008 01:31 | Last updated: April 26 2008 01:31
If the International Olympic Committee wants to get the message over that sport should be kept separate from politics, someone had better tell its president.
In the armchair of his Lausanne office, Jacques Rogge is in full flow, discussing Mao, the Cultural Revolution and Europe’s colonial record – even the role of the IOC beyond sport as a force for social change.
Mr Rogge has endured a torrid three weeks since protests on the international torch relay in London set off what he later called a “crisis”, the biggest in his six-year presidency of the IOC.
Struggling to deflect criticism from human rights groups that he had turned a blind eye to China’s crackdown on riots in Tibet, Mr Rogge kept insisting the IOC was a sporting and not a political body.
Now, this Olympic yachtsman appears to be changing tack. Not once mentioning that sport and politics should be kept apart, he concedes in an FT interview that taking politics out of the Olympics was going to be “an eternal difficulty” for the games.
“There will never be a solution whereby the political world or the pressure groups will not try to leverage the games. You cannot stop that because of the prestige of the games and what they represent for mankind,” the president says.
Like most sportsmen, politics barely featured in his upbringing. The 65-year-old Belgian combined a career as an orthopaedic surgeon with an aptitude for yachting that took him to three successive Olympics.
When he was elected IOC president in 2001, three days after the body awarded the 2008 Olympics to China, Jacques Rogge represented for the IOC a clean break from the scandal-plagued regime of his predecessor, Juan Antonio Samaranch.
Olympic events
Berlin 1936
Games used for Nazi Aryan supremacist propaganda. Black US athlete Jesse Owens won four gold medals
Mexico 1968
US sprinters expelled for giving black power salute
Munich 1972
Eleven Israeli athletes killed by Palestinian terrorists
Moscow 1980
Boycott over Soviet intervention in Afghanistan
Atlanta 1996
Bomb killed one person and hurt 110
Mr Rogge has steered the IOC through internal reform, cleaning it of corruption and tightening up on doping control.
He has busied himself with more prosaic matters such as a cap on the number of Olympic sports and the setting up of a youth games.
But the torch relay debacle demands a rethink, and the president is sounding more like one of the Sino specialists he consulted in preparation for his talks with the Chinese leadership.
Mr Rogge says while he understands the depth of emotion in the west on China’s human rights record, public expectations about the country’s pace of change are unrealistic.
“It took us 200 years to evolve from the French Revolution. China started in 1949. At that time it was a country of famine, epidemics, floods and civil war. It had no economy, no health care, no education system and there was 600m of them,” he says.
“They had to build that and it was a bumpy road. We all know that there were abuses under Mao and the Cultural Revolution was not a nice period. But gradually, steadily, over 60 years, they evolved, and they were able to introduce a lot of changes.”
Back in 1949, Mr Rogge pointed out, the UK was a colonial power. So too were Belgium, France and Portugal, “with all the abuse attached to colonial powers. It was only 40 years ago that we gave liberty to the colonies. Let’s be a little bit more modest”.
China may not be a role model in the west, Mr Rogge concedes, but “we owe China to give them time”.
Mr Rogge says his relations with Beijing are “excellent”, although “they have their priorities and we have ours”. Sometimes those priorities contradict each other, he admits.
But the relationship has yielded two policy changes by Beijing, the IOC president claims: a media law allowing 25,000 foreign media access during the games, and environmental measures to tackle the city’s chronic pollution problems.
The media law, Mr Rogge contends, will most likely be extended into 2009 – and while there are still loopholes in it, there is little point in bellowing at the hosts for action.
“You don’t obtain anything in China with a loud voice. That is the big mistake of people in the west wanting to add their views. To keep face [in Asia] is of paramount importance. All the Chinese specialists will tell you that only one thing works – respectful, quiet but firm discussion.
“Otherwise, the Chinese will close themselves. That is what is happening today. There is a lot of protest, a lot of very strong verbal power, and the Chinese, they close themselves.”
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